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Monday, November 15, 2010
Daly City REO Listing
Thursday, October 30, 2008
Do mobile and manufactured homes increase in value???
Do mobile homes and manufactured homes increase in value or decrease? This is a question often asked when talking about manufactured homes. In fact, on a recent web post I saw the following as a realtor's answer to a potential buyers question about value....
"No, do not buy a mobile/manufactured home! Rent instead. Mobile homes don't appreciate and they are difficult to sell. Check Craig's list, there are quite a few for sale and no buyers. Don't throw your money away."
He must know what he's talking about. He's licensed right? Why don't we help out and provide some actual data and see what the results are... the Realtor happens to be in the Santa Clara County area, so we will start there. I was able to get Sold averages since 1998 from the multiple listing service. We need to compare against other types of property to get a good idea if the numbers are good or bad, so lets find out the appreciation or depreciation of single family homes, condos, and mobile/manufactured homes,(in community park settings, both owner and non owner owned parks) from 1998 to the second half of 2008.
Here's the results for Santa Clara County.... Drum roll please....
Single family homes appreciated 128%
Condos appreciated 126%
Mobile/Manufactured homes appreciated 83%
So each form of housing appreciated a fairly decent amount although manufactured homes trailed in 3rd place. Maybe this is just a fluke?? Lets look at the counties to the north and south and compare.
San Mateo County to the north....
Single family homes appreciated 152%
Condos appreciated 117%
And mobile/manufactured homes 143%
Sorry condo owners you take third place this time.
Maybe our agent above was referring to Santa Cruz county, so same time period we have...
Single family homes appreciate 152%
Condos appreciated 92%
And Mobile/manufactured homes 144%
Pretty similar to San Mateo county and unfortunately condos come in third again. Granted this is the California Bay Area we are talking about, but it appears all forms of housing increased a large percentage over the time period we have data for. It also appears that returns on mobile/manufactured homes in two counties were even higher than returns on condos and within 9% of the returns on single family homes in two counties. Is our data flawed? What would happen if we took out mobile homes built prior to the HUD code? We will save that for a future post, but I'm guessing our manufactured home returns may go up even higher. Is someone trying to sabotage the manufactured home industry? Did we not have a big enough sample? In Santa Clara we are talking about 6082 mobile/manufactured home sales. If we average that out over 10 years and then divide by 4 to get an even quarterly number we come up with 152 sales a quarter are needed to keep this pace. So we have to have at least that may homes listed. 152 craigslists ads which might represent a lot from our realtor quote above. It sounds like a lot. As a side note and scary thought right before Halloween, the approx return in the Dow Jones Industrial average over the same time period ending today was 1.5%. Yikes, I bet more investors wish they had parked their money in mobile and manufactured homes.
Speaking of money, and being a former equity options floor trader, at first glance it looks like there are some good spread opportunities here. IE sell Santa Clara Condos and buy Santa Clara homes or maybe sell San Mateo manufactured homes and buy Santa Clara manufactured homes. Ok, so we are probably getting carried away here and need to do some more research, but I would really consider the Santa Clara one if I owned a condo there.
I hope you liked this data and if you have data from other parts of the United States I hope you take the time to post so we can compare. Sign up for new posts to the manufactured and modular home group. I'm sure there are lots of info and ideas for us all to learn from. Thanks, Glen Mitchell
Info on average prices for blog taken from mlslistings is deemed reliable, but not guaranteed.
"No, do not buy a mobile/manufactured home! Rent instead. Mobile homes don't appreciate and they are difficult to sell. Check Craig's list, there are quite a few for sale and no buyers. Don't throw your money away."
He must know what he's talking about. He's licensed right? Why don't we help out and provide some actual data and see what the results are... the Realtor happens to be in the Santa Clara County area, so we will start there. I was able to get Sold averages since 1998 from the multiple listing service. We need to compare against other types of property to get a good idea if the numbers are good or bad, so lets find out the appreciation or depreciation of single family homes, condos, and mobile/manufactured homes,(in community park settings, both owner and non owner owned parks) from 1998 to the second half of 2008.
Here's the results for Santa Clara County.... Drum roll please....
Single family homes appreciated 128%
Condos appreciated 126%
Mobile/Manufactured homes appreciated 83%
So each form of housing appreciated a fairly decent amount although manufactured homes trailed in 3rd place. Maybe this is just a fluke?? Lets look at the counties to the north and south and compare.
San Mateo County to the north....
Single family homes appreciated 152%
Condos appreciated 117%
And mobile/manufactured homes 143%
Sorry condo owners you take third place this time.
Maybe our agent above was referring to Santa Cruz county, so same time period we have...
Single family homes appreciate 152%
Condos appreciated 92%
And Mobile/manufactured homes 144%
Pretty similar to San Mateo county and unfortunately condos come in third again. Granted this is the California Bay Area we are talking about, but it appears all forms of housing increased a large percentage over the time period we have data for. It also appears that returns on mobile/manufactured homes in two counties were even higher than returns on condos and within 9% of the returns on single family homes in two counties. Is our data flawed? What would happen if we took out mobile homes built prior to the HUD code? We will save that for a future post, but I'm guessing our manufactured home returns may go up even higher. Is someone trying to sabotage the manufactured home industry? Did we not have a big enough sample? In Santa Clara we are talking about 6082 mobile/manufactured home sales. If we average that out over 10 years and then divide by 4 to get an even quarterly number we come up with 152 sales a quarter are needed to keep this pace. So we have to have at least that may homes listed. 152 craigslists ads which might represent a lot from our realtor quote above. It sounds like a lot. As a side note and scary thought right before Halloween, the approx return in the Dow Jones Industrial average over the same time period ending today was 1.5%. Yikes, I bet more investors wish they had parked their money in mobile and manufactured homes.
Speaking of money, and being a former equity options floor trader, at first glance it looks like there are some good spread opportunities here. IE sell Santa Clara Condos and buy Santa Clara homes or maybe sell San Mateo manufactured homes and buy Santa Clara manufactured homes. Ok, so we are probably getting carried away here and need to do some more research, but I would really consider the Santa Clara one if I owned a condo there.
I hope you liked this data and if you have data from other parts of the United States I hope you take the time to post so we can compare. Sign up for new posts to the manufactured and modular home group. I'm sure there are lots of info and ideas for us all to learn from. Thanks, Glen Mitchell
Info on average prices for blog taken from mlslistings is deemed reliable, but not guaranteed.
Tuesday, September 16, 2008
Need help for military restoration project
Ok guys and ladies too. Vets and military collectors. Anyone..I need your help for a project. A while back I went out and bought the hull of a boat that needs work and lots of parts. For some reason my wife doesn't think its the best investment I've ever made. But I figure if I can get a real estate deal done from someone that says they wanted to give me business so I could afford boat parts, she would have to give in a little. Sound like a plot... I mean a plan? The boat in question is a Vietnam era river patrol boat. AKA PBR MK2 or patrol boat riverine. So if you are, or know a military vehicle enthusiast, or collector that needs real estate help of some kind in California or Maui send them my way.(www.maui4rent.com) Just remember the code words... I'm doing it for the boat project. Don't worry, before you talk to my wife we can practice. Besides helping out, you will also get extreme real estate service. It's what we call the win win :) Any one out there have a good deal on a 32 foot boat trailer? Some engines?? PS If you want to see info on a guy with a real collection, check out this site... largest private collector / owner of tanks in the world Jacques Littlefield
http://www.mishalov.net/military-vehicles/military-vehicles.html
http://www.mishalov.net/military-vehicles/military-vehicles.html
Wednesday, September 10, 2008
Chicks Learning to fly
So its been almost three weeks since my pheasant chicks arrived and I started this crazy hobby. Wow, no idea they would grow so fast and I don't have their permanent home built yet. I increased their garage home quite a bit. Enough room for them to move around and even fly! They were doing that last week. I put a couple little roosts in for them to get up higher if they want. Had I known things were going to go this fast I might have thought more carefully about this project. I put the word out that I needed some wood and have had a few offers on a decent amount so I think that counts as building green.
Monday, September 8, 2008
Saturday, September 6, 2008
Capitola Art and Wine Festival this weekend
Here is the link to the info for this years art and wine festival in Capitola....http://www.capitolachamber.com/artwine.html
Oh and the real reason I want you to go...
I'm holding an open house 1:30-4:30 both Sat. and Sunday at 602 Capitola on the corner of Beverly in-between Gayles and the Beach. Property is used as a duplex each one bedroom and one bath. Motivated owners asking $800k. Property lies in Capitola's neighborhood commercial district and could be converted to a business. Great location.
For more info please visit www.maui4rent.com or call me directly. 831-588-8958
For 24 hour listing information call 800-688-5875 Ext 3008
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